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I am a Catholic Christian. My comments ought to make that pretty clear. I just thought I’d mention it at the outset in order to avoid confusion. Anyway, when one speaks of asceticism it seems to me to make a great deal of difference whether the audience for the story is Christian or not. The following comments may go some way to illustrating why I thing that.

For Christ the practice of asceticism, at least the kind which he proclaimed for his disciples, had no organic or necessary relationship to the ‘desert’. On the lips of the Master, the talk in this regard concerned three practical activities: prayer, fasting, and alms giving.

Moreover, Christ’s instruction on the nuts & bolts of these practices was clear and shocking. So, when you pray don’t make a public exhibition of it but go to your private room and shut the door. When you fast, don’t walk about the town in sackcloth and ashes, wailing and a-weeping; rather, get dolled up in your best clothes and smile like you just won the lottery. And, (best of all) when you give alms, ‘don’t let your left hand know what your right hand is doing’.

Each of these is an ascetic practice for the same reason; each practice represents one strand in the strategy aimed at the deconstruction of the culturally determined ‘self’. Prayer when undertaken under this sign is the great Amen by means of which God is recognised as God. It is praise and worship of that which is inexpressibly greater than any ‘power’ I might claim for my ‘self’. Fasting is a denial of the authority of sensual pleasure in a world of disordered desires. Alms-giving undermines the desire for material wealth and the power it is assumed to confer.

What Christ proposes is modelled on His own Incarnation. That is to say the downward dynamic of his birth on earth; his Kenosis, the second person of the Trinity ‘taking the form of a man’, a ‘bond servant’ for the sake of the salvation of all Creation.

The ‘humanity’ that Christ modelled was ‘self-emptying’. The purpose of such self-emptying is not to make one’s self feel better about how crappy the world is. It is not undertaken in order to make the world a ‘better place’. It isn’t even a practice that will make me a ‘better person’.

It is a self-surrendering to, a humility before God. And what is the point of this. None whatsoever when judged against the dominant values of our culture. It will not get you a good job. It will not make you popular. It will not make your house the envy of the neighbourhood.

The point of it is to discern more clearly the path we might walk in following Christ. The point of it is that we make of ourselves what Rene Voillaume called, ‘standing delegates of prayer’.

And it is this way because there can be no compromise between the Dark and the Light. Which everyone who has ever seen the Matrix knows; you take the red pill or the blue pill. Which is why, obviously, you never let you left hand know what your right hand is doing.

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Jack, I am glad you are writing this substack. I did follow the link to FFatalism's essays and the comments there also -- good conversation. I think this is making me feel my lack of a church sorely. I have never had a good spiritual home since the shattering of our evangelical upbringing about 10 yrs ago. A community of fellow travelers is enlivening.

Do you subscribe to Metanoia of VT? Sorry to keep bringing it up here but today Mark published an essay about rites of passage that relates so well to your thoughts...https://metanoiavt.substack.com/p/doorways-to-the-sacred-upheaval-rites/comments.

I actually felt moved to stand up and speak in Quaker meeting two weeks ago about how birth is painful and bewildering but miraculously brings joy and new life; wondering if the painful transition we are in now might not be a birthing. (Marks words are far more eloquent)

In response to the idea that we may all be "forced" into a desert so to speak by the converging crises of the anthropocene I feel some doubt. Like Mark writes, there is an opportunity for loss to bring transformation but it is not automatic. I'm sure you know that, but I also wonder this: if the unraveling of this mess is more protracted, less dramatic -- if the wealthy nations insulate themselves at the expense of others somehow -- what if it doesn't turn out to be "practical" to the worldly mind or necessitated any time soon. Isn't it still what we want? Aren't we hungry for God and aren't we sick and sad and broken-hearted about the devastation and corruption that we are living under and participating in? I don't pretend to know how world events will unfold, but for my part, even if we could keep the seemingly pleasant "gifts" of the machine and delay the reckoning for payment I still can't be happy. It's not self-loathing. It's not being ill adjusted psychologically as far as I can discern. I think it is the genuine hunger for God, for the Divine, for wholeness. Without this hunger, any sort of practical motive will probably fail eventually. I don't know the theology or philosophy behind what I'm saying, just my practical gut instinct. This motive will always be mistaken for insanity or delusion by atheists I guess.

"Is it easy to love God?"

"It is for those that do it."

(CS Lewis attributes this saying to 'a wise old christian')

Your internet friend, Clara

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